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'40s-'50s Restaurant Question

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'40s-'50s Restaurant Question

Postby Fred Ragsdale on Tue Jan 13, 2009 3:40 pm

I've received an email asking if I remember a restaurant in Oak Cliff named (possibly) "Roth's". The place was possibly on West Davis or Ft. Worth Ave. in the 1940-50s, according to the person who sent me the email.

I can't recall the place, so I'm asking you folks here to put your thinking caps on and see if you can remember something about the place.

Thanks

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Postby Fred Ragsdale on Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:49 pm

Some more info I just received...

Next door to the Belmont? Possible location of Roth's?

New restaurant there now, The Cliff, which is supposed to have great food.

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Postby Fred Ragsdale on Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:58 am

More info...

Not the Cliff restaurant location next to the Belmont. Here's the info I just received:

FRED, I JUST CALLED THE CENTRAL PUBLIC LIBRARY AND THEY LOOKED UP "ROTHS" FOR ME IN THE CITY DIRECTORY FROM 1958-59 AND THEY GAVE ME THE ADDRESS OF 2601 FORT WORTH. SO GUESS I WAS WRONG ABOUT IT BEING THE NEW PLACE CALLED "CLIFF" CONNECTED TO THE "BELMONT HOTEL". IT'S AT 901 FORT WORTH AVE.. BUT THEY DO HAVE REALLY GOOD FOOD. IF YOU GO, GET THE FRIED EGG SANDWICH AND ADD BACON. YOU WON'T BELIEVE HOW TASTY IT IS!!!!

Now, where was the 2600 block of FW Ave. in the late 1950s? Was that near Westmoreland out near Sivil's and the Torch? I just can't bring up a memory of a Roth's along that stretch of FW Ave.

Any ideas or memories?

I'm hungering for that fried egg and bacon sandwich right now!!!

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Postby Clyde Howard on Wed Jan 14, 2009 2:36 pm

Numbering won't have changed significantly along there since 1958-59. Looks like it is west of the Hampton Road intersection, about where Bahama Drive intersects. Roughly half-way between Hampton and Westmoreland looks like. Which makes it well east of the Torch and Sivil's.
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Postby Paul Brancato on Wed Jan 14, 2009 5:59 pm

Google maps shows it at Bahama where the Bronco Bowl used to be. There's a Walgreens at the intersection now. I don't know what was there before the Bronco Bowl.

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Postby Fred Ragsdale on Thu Jan 15, 2009 8:19 pm

Received this in an email from one of our favorite folks on the DHS message board:

2701 Fort Worth Cut-Off in the 1943 Greater Dallas Yellow Pages
2601 Fort Worth Avenue in the 1954 Greater Dallas Yellow Pages

Undoutedly the same location. The number change might be due to a renumbering or an expansion.

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Postby Bill Strouse on Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:38 pm

Fred, Yes, I remember the Restaurant (not 100% sure about the name but pretty sure), my Father use to take us (My Father, Stepmother, myself and my Stepsister (Pat Coker)) there in the mid 1950's. It was a free standing Building on the North Side of Fort Worth Ave., sort of half way between Hampton and Westmoreland, probably 2 or 3 blocks West of where Tupy's would later be. They had very good food (I ususlly had fried chicken). We went there quite a few times (always in the evening) and one of the most interesting things I remember about it is that several times Bennie Bickers would be eating there also. He knew my Father so he always would speak to us, some interesting times, Oak Cliff was Fun back then..........Bill Strouse
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Postby Fred Ragsdale on Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:58 pm

Thanks for the additional info, Bill.

I don't recall going there, as we didn't have a car until about 1952 and usually went to the Mexican food restaurant in Little Mexico on many Friday nights. .....During the Summer, we'd usually stop at the Bull Pen (later Austin's) on Saturday evenings for BBQ sandwiches to-go and then spend the evening at the Hampton Rd. Drive-In. ...Good times!

I attended school at Stockard and Sunset with B. Bicker's son Mickey. Most of us knew about his dad's connections with the mob.

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