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We have quite a few new members listed on our Memberlist. So for those of you who have signed on within whatever time --WELCOME!!

We are so glad to have you in our little dysfunctional family. There is no one "in charge" here so please jump in and post--any and all topics that fit the subforums' guidelines are welcome!

I noticed on DHS that Marc has returned and signed up here--so Marc we hope you enjoy our special Oak Cliff subforum. Please feel free to contribute or comment.

Anybody having a genealogy question? There are several of us willing to help and if confidential we have private mail or email.

So just jump in and test the waters and let us start to get to know you. Maybe we can start this as our "Welcome Aboard" sticky. Even those who have been here always can introduce themselves or welcome new members.

I hope that new folks (or infrequent posters) would take the time to stop here and say hi.

The regular posters would welcome you... and invite you to join in on the serious discourse and/or foolishness.

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"The regular posters would welcome you... and invite you to join in on the serious discourse and/or foolishness."

What serious discourse? Can't remember any.

Foolishness I can remember.

Best,
adam

I see that Mr. Flatt is here

Aww ... Curtis, your tire isn't flat Welcome

~~Holly V.

. . . thought I'd jump in and "post a reply". This type of forum is new to me . I'm just trying to learn how to set up a profile and get comfortable in using the forum. I often visited the old DHS Message Board as a lurker and when it started having problems, I gave up . I lived in Oak Cliff from the summer of '56 through the summer of '67. During that time I attended Terry Elementary, Browne & Atwell Jr Highs & 10th grade at Carter. Moved to Denton and graduated Denton High in '69. Those were really great times I remember in Oak Cliff and I hated to move . Guess I'll stop rambling now and hit the "preview" button and see what this looks like . . . hopefully I can "submit". Thanks

Welcome Steve, great to have you join us. There are more Clffies here than not--check out the Oak Cliff Sub Forum.
I am sure it has really changed but we lived in Denton from summer of '68 to summer of '69 while Mike finished at UNT and I taught school in Aubrey.

Sharon Marsalis wrote:Welcome Steve, great to have you join us. There are more Clffies here than not--check out the Oak Cliff Sub Forum.
I am sure it has really changed but we lived in Denton from summer of '68 to summer of '69 while Mike finished at UNT and I taught school in Aubrey.

Thanks for your welcome . Denton has indeed changed. Denton pop. is about 100K. UNT enrollment is about 30K and TWU about 12K.

Welcome Steve,

Carter High School is famous for football.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_High_School

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Dallas Carter has a very competitive and tradition-rich football program. Playing in the highest classification in Texas high school football, the Cowboys reached the state semifinals in 1971 (lost 7-13 to Wichita Falls), 1974 (lost 12-14 to Mesquite) and 1982 (lost 13-21 to Hurst Bell), but did not make the final game until 1988. That year, Dallas Carter had one of the most talented high school football teams ever assembled, equipped with a defense featuring Jessie Armstead (LB), Derrick Cherry (DT), Clifton Abraham (CB), Le'Shai Maston and Derric Evans (both S).[8] Guided by legendary coach Freddie James, the Cowboys won the 1988 5A state championship with a 31-14 win over Converse Judson. However, due to charges that the school's administration forced a teacher to pass one of their players who had clearly failed, judges forfeited all playoff wins. Officially, the score of the 1988 state championship game is Converse Judson 1, Dallas Carter 0.

The 1988 Dallas Carter Cowboys appear in the 2004 film Friday Night Lights as opponents to Odessa Permian in the state championship game. Actually Carter defeated Permian in the 1988 state semifinals. The video clips used to show the 1988 Dallas Carter playing the “Hays Rams” was actually a 2002 playoff game between Carter and Richardson Berkner.

Carter's 1989 team was just as talented as the 1988 squad, featuring Clifton Abraham in his senior year and transfer Greg Hill. However, they were banned from the 1989 state playoffs by the UIL excutive committee because Carter coach Freddie James had knowingly played an ineligible player. Nonetheless, the Dallas Morning News ranked Dallas Carter at #1 of the their final area ranking of the 1989 season. In 1990, Carter reached the state semifinals again, but lost 7-28 to Arlington Lamar. Since James retired in 1995, Carter had a couple of different head football coaches. Bruce Chambers chose to leave the school for an assistant job at Texas after two seasons. His successor Linus Walton coached 1998 and 1999 before being removed after he was convicted of stealing money from the school. In 2000 Carter had an interim coach.

In 2002, Carter hired Allen Wilson, who has previously coached at Paris High School in Paris, Texas and John Tyler High School in Tyler, Texas. Paris won a 4A state title in 1988, while John Tyler won a 5A title in 1994 and made a finals appearance in 2000. Carter owns a 53-8 record since Wilson's arrival.

Dallas Carter had made 30 playoff appearances, which is best in the Dallas-Fort Worth area and 5th overall in 5A Texas football.[9]

North Texas State University in 1960 was famous for its jazz band.

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"Founded by Gene (M.E.) Hall, the University of North Texas (formerly North Texas State University, or NTSU) College of Music's jazz degree program received official sanction in 1947 and was the first of its kind in the nation. Leon Breeden was director of Jazz Studies at North Texas from 1959 to 1981 and led the One O'Clock Lab Band in winning one of its first important awards as Best Jazz Band in the 1961 Notre Dame Collegiate Jazz Festival. Since then, countless students have honed their skills at North Texas, successfully reaching a respected seat in the One O'Clock Lab Band, and subsequently achieving a notable career as a professional musician in the world of jazz performance. One O'Clock Lab Band students and alumni have always been respected throughout the world as the best of the best at their trade. The band has a history of yearly recordings dating back to the 1960s, known simply by the title Lab 'XX, the two-digit abbreviation being the year in which the 20th-century recording was made (ex. "Lab '85" or "Lab '00"); in the case of 21st-century recordings, the year is not abbreviated (ex. "Lab 2001" or "Lab 2006.") A list of available recordings can be found by following this link.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_O'Clock_Lab_Band

What a twinky dink! While trying to find some 1968 + photos I came across a file of some of Mike's interviews/articles when he wrote for the Campus Chat.

Friday, June 16, 1967 he wrote "Lab Band Preparing Music Fit for a King"
"Let's call it concern."
'Thats the way Leon Breeden describes his feelings as he prepares to take his 1 O'Clock Lab Band to the White House to perform at a state dinner honoring King Bhumibol Aduldet of Thailand.

The band will fly to Washington on the morning of June 26, conduct a dress rehearsal that night for the press, and perform the following evening for the jazz-loving Massachusetts-born king.

THE INVITATION from President Johnson came as a call from the White House to North Texas President J.C. Matthews......'


Anyway the article goes on about the king's love for jazz and the interview with Breeden and places the Band had toured.. Breeden also said that he believed the President had heard of the band through friends and the First Lady.

This was to be the group's third Washington performance that year and the fourth in 2 years at prestigious places. Other 1966-67 performances included concerts in Denton, Dallas, and Ft.Worth, a 28 day tour of Mexico, and a first-place victory at the Mobile Jazz Festival.

Oh, and the name of this one of six others at N.T. came from the hour of rehearsal

Thanks for your welcome also, Adam . I certainly do remember the Carter football program, its too bad about the choices made by some of the coaches . Kedric Couch was the head football coach I remember along with Jimmy Dickinson, the basketball coach. Good role models, stern but fair . Golf was my game, and I remember Mr. Couch being our "golf coach" in the early days. We thought we were good, but Kimball always whipped our "you know whats" . Lots of good memories growing up in "far" south Oak Cliff. Carter was sitting' out there all by itself on Wheatland Rd back then (pre-I20).
Thanks!

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Lots of good memories growing up in "far" south Oak Cliff. Carter was sitting' out there all by itself on Wheatland Rd back then (pre-I20).

I remember driving down Wheatland after I got of the Army and seeing Carter for the first time. I thought, "What the hell is that?" because I didn't even know the school existed.

Hi, Steve

Howdy, Freda! (this is Holly V., btw )

Welcome to the group, Steve...........